(MP0werd) wrote in message news. I rather doubt that. For one thing, the registration process cannot actually require an active internet connection, for obvious reasons. Hence, there will be no 'checking the server' at the initial registration.
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Any pirate worth his salt will stow the prefs away safely - even if he needs to wipe his drive clean, he won't need to use Ambrosia's updating service later to get a new SN. He will, therefore, not risk having the server identify his number as a pirated one. I wonder, have you merely misunderstood Matt's post, or are you intentionally misinforming people on Ambrosia's behalf as to what the reg app can or cannot do?
John Collins 24/3/2002, 14:37 น. (Merenis) wrote: (MP0werd) wrote in message news. (John) wrote: Could you send me a SN too? Does it matter if Ambrosia is watching? I suppose they could rat out the origional person on the registration name.That seems unlikely though.
It's not. Furthermore they watch registration patterns. If the same number is registered by different people in a short span of time, it gets flagged and deactivated. The products registered before a serial's deactivation still work because it only checks the serial with the server once.
Registrations occuring afterwards would fail. I rather doubt that. For one thing, the registration process cannot actually require an active internet connection, for obvious reasons.
Hence, there will be no 'checking the server' at the initial registration. Any pirate worth his salt will stow the prefs away safely - even if he needs to wipe his drive clean, he won't need to use Ambrosia's updating service later to get a new SN. He will, therefore, not risk having the server identify his number as a pirated one. I wonder, have you merely misunderstood Matt's post, or are you intentionally misinforming people on Ambrosia's behalf as to what the reg app can or cannot do? I'm sorry that you feel my information is misleading or erroneous. I acquired the information from the Ambrosia Times' Bitwise Operator column which says that new system does require some form of contact with Ambrosia. The serials time out after a 30 days and the means to get a working serial after that window is ambrosia themselves.
Merenis 26/3/2002, 11:04 น. (MP0werd) wrote in message news. (Merenis) wrote: I wonder, have you merely misunderstood Matt's post, or are you intentionally misinforming people on Ambrosia's behalf as to what the reg app can or cannot do? I'm sorry that you feel my information is misleading or erroneous. I acquired the information from the Ambrosia Times' Bitwise Operator column which says that new system does require some form of contact with Ambrosia. Not unless you have lost the preferences file and the app AFTER you've registered it. The serials time out after a 30 days and the means to get a working serial after that window is ambrosia themselves.
Take a look, if you will, at the following passages from the long, dreary, 'all-we-want-is-pizza-and-beer' tirade by Matt Slot, aka the Bitwise Operator: 'it forces the user to activate the product within 30 days, or the code expires and won't activate anything, Now, and this is important, the timestamp has absolutely no effect on the operation of the software after the code has been entered. Once personalized for the user's computer, it remains fully functional forever (unless someone wipes the system clean).'
The need to contact Ambrosia arose only when, '.Apple had upgraded the operating system and most people were paranoid enough to perform a clean install. This meant that the data file containing the software registration was lost as well, and most of them needed to reenter their license codes.' What pirate would be stupid enough, knowing about this expiration scheme, not to back up anything to do with EV Nova, including the aforementioned data file, before they wipe the system? 'You see, in order to renew their stolen codes they must contact a computer in our office. /Only/ if they're foolish enough to have lost the registered app and preferences file in the first place.
I restate, the user does NOT have to contact Ambrosia the first time they register. Which is a good thing - it is likely that Surfer's Serials will keep up with the codes for a few months, once the system is cracked - that's why it's a monthly publication.:) Also, it would be most amusing if the new registration scheme were vulnerable to something as simple as resetting the date on your machine - and at present, I don't see why it wouldn't be. MP0werd 26/3/2002, 11:54 น.
(Merenis) wrote: (MP0werd) wrote in message news. (Merenis) wrote: I wonder, have you merely misunderstood Matt's post, or are you intentionally misinforming people on Ambrosia's behalf as to what the reg app can or cannot do? I'm sorry that you feel my information is misleading or erroneous. I acquired the information from the Ambrosia Times' Bitwise Operator column which says that new system does require some form of contact with Ambrosia. Not unless you have lost the preferences file and the app AFTER you've registered it. I see where the confusion comes from. I am talking merely in terms of warez, which means people sharing their serials.
After 30 days, the serials stop working and any pirate who uses them would have to contact ambrosia. At first the number may work but it would probably be blacklisted in short order. I was not speaking in terms of the original person who registered. Merenis 26/3/2002, 14:49 น. (MP0werd) wrote in message I see where the confusion comes from. I am talking merely in terms of warezwhich means people sharing their serials. After 30 days, the serials stop working and any pirate who uses them would have to contact ambrosia.
Only if the pirate were silly enough to trash his prefs. Sorry to waste bandwidth with this back-and-forth banter, but serialbuggers ought to know their options. Which, right now, I envision as the following: 1) Someone cracks the scheme, submits a buncha serials to Surfers' Serials. 2) Pirates register within a month and make sure to keep their prefs. The app works forever. 3) After a month, serials expire. Serials in last month's SS don't work anymore.
The new edition of Surfer's Serials has new numbers. Rinse and repeat until interest in Nova wanes.
Or, someone writes a patch circumventing the whole time-based scheme, and the whole mess ends there. This reminds me so much of the old Realmz/Fantasoft, when Tim Phillips would check C&N and keep a blacklist deep in the datafiles.:) He, too, seemed obsessed with fancy anti-piracy devices. MP0werd 26/3/2002, 16:06 น. (Merenis) wrote: (MP0werd) wrote in message I see where the confusion comes from. I am talking merely in terms of warezwhich means people sharing their serials. After 30 days, the serials stop working and any pirate who uses them would have to contact ambrosia.
Only if the pirate were silly enough to trash his prefs. That assumes the pirate registered within the 30 days, which is probably not the case.
Pirates who register after the window will not be able to register without, as you say, solutions like cracks. Sorry to waste bandwidth with this back-and-forth banter, but serialbuggers ought to know their options. Which, right now, I envision as the following: 1) Someone cracks the scheme, submits a buncha serials to Surfers' Serials. 2) Pirates register within a month and make sure to keep their prefs.
Skyrim patch 1.9 for xbox 360. The app works forever. 3) After a month, serials expire. Serials in last month's SS don't work anymore.
The new edition of Surfer's Serials has new numbers. Rinse and repeat until interest in Nova wanes.
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or, someone writes a patch circumventing the whole time-based scheme, and the whole mess ends there. I suppose so although ambrosia could release a new.1 revision that breaks the serial number algorythm which has been developed and the patch all while allowing correct serials to work. This reminds me so much of the old Realmz/Fantasoft, when Tim Phillips would check C&N and keep a blacklist deep in the datafiles.:) He, too, seemed obsessed with fancy anti-piracy devices. Well, we'll see how it plays out. OM 27/3/2002, 22:21 น. EV Nova: name: Fredrik Gadnell copies: 1 code: HE43-TNK5-VAXA On Sun, 24 Mar 2002 17:37:41 -0500, John Collins wrote (in message ): (James) wrote in message news.
please email me also or just post it in the damned news! Me too please! My friend and I want to play this with the cool ships and plugins activated.
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Hiya, I used to play this game a lot as a kid and wanted to get back to playing it. However the Ambrosia site seems to be have some problems as my computer warns me of it when I try to purchase a copy. As I understand it the company doesn't really exist anymore and it's hard to get in contact with the right people. Is there anyone who had this problem before? Should I wait a couple of days and see if the website gets updated or should I simply 'trust' the website?
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